Can You Have Two Cable Accounts in One House
- RETD [OP]
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Adding 2nd Cable Net Service to House
I demand higher speed cyberspace for a few months (child working from home).
Currently I have a cheap Showtime.ca grandfathered cable programme 6D/2U with cap (no insults please! 
According to the rep I tin't just carve up my incoming cable with a line to each cablevision modem. He said Rogers allows this but non Cogeco but I can't see why non. For various reasons I'yard non interested in DSL/ADSL.
Can everyone confirm if what the rep says is accurate? What goes on backside the scenes at Cogeco or Rogers (physically or logically) that would forbid the second service from working since the physical connection is already in place.
This 2d service might be from Beginning of an alternating Internet access provider like Teksavvy, Carrytel, etc.
TIA
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- ds2chan
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Your Internet is so dull. Is it that cheap that you want to concord onto it?
Information technology makes sense to me considering you only take the single cable wire/line coming to your business firm. How would any company dissever that and share with each other? But lets await for other knowledgeable people to come in and explain and share their thoughts.
Since Rogers owns the line maybe they accept some sort of new device that can do that? Or perhaps Rogers would just run a second line to your business firm (you know those black wires that hang on people'southward copse)? Running a second line to your business firm sounds like the more plausible solution from Rogers.
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why aren't you interested in dsl ?
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Is fiber an selection in your area? Also interested what this grandfathered plan is ... 
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- fordmaple
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Technically there'due south no incertitude it is possible every bit the technology allows this but information technology's probable corporate policy of Rogers, Cogeco...etc not to permit it. Your cablevision line at the neighborhood box is tapped into a splitter per se and is not isolated from your neighbors.
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- RETD [OP]
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Grandfathered programme is 6D/2U with 100GB cap for $xxx/month. Married woman and I are retired - do a scrap of surfing and some Netflix - so current program is more than than sufficient for united states of america.
Not interested in DSL b/c:
- DSL installs are backlogged, one month out at earliest and need service shortly - this is the fundamental bespeak
- I can easily go my hands on a cablevision modem for inexpensive/complimentary
- not as cost competitive
This is a temporary situation so prefer to minimize installation requirements/hassle specially in light of Covid. Cablevision would be easiest if I could simply add a splitter/modem/router.
fordmaple wrote: ↑ Technically there's no dubiousness it is possible as the applied science allows this simply it's likely corporate policy of Rogers, Cogeco...etc not to allow information technology. Your cable line at the neighborhood box is tapped into a splitter per se and is not isolated from your neighbors.
This is my thinking every bit I'grand sure at that place are duplexes/triplexes etc. with similar setups where a single cable runs to the property but the Start rep indicated that Cogeco would need to do some stuff on their finish.
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- Dynatos
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The way cable internet works, splitting to two services inside your home, whether they're both with the same provider or across ii providers, is technically possible. Without some intendance on what splitters or taps are used within the abode, though, yous tin can end up with a pregnant imbalance in signal levels.
I don't see why start tin't offer this. I doubtable it's more that they don't want to, or information technology's not allowed within their relationship with Rogers/Cogeco. With many providers, you lot can just have one modem per account or accost, and so at the to the lowest degree they'd take to be able to key two different accounts to your address. I suspect start.ca just doesn't have a process to do that.
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- RETD [OP]
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Dynatos wrote: ↑ The manner cable internet works, splitting to 2 services inside your home, whether they're both with the same provider or across 2 providers, is technically possible. Without some intendance on what splitters or taps are used within the abode, though, you tin can end upwardly with a significant imbalance in signal levels.
I don't see why start tin't offer this. I suspect information technology's more than that they don't desire to, or information technology's not allowed within their human relationship with Rogers/Cogeco. With many providers, you tin can simply have i modem per account or address, then at the least they'd have to be able to key ii different accounts to your address. I doubtable first.ca just doesn't have a process to exercise that.
Is it technically possible without intervention from Cogeco other than "permission" and admin logging for payment for use of their infrastructure? Start mentioned that there is a cap to the number of connections immune but, every bit you mention, that could be related to Kickoff'southward agreement with Cogeco assuming such exists. I've read online that ppl motion their modem between houses (same territory) and it works.
I would split the cable where it enters the house. Both cable modems would be within 2ft cable altitude to the splitter then indicate imbalance shouldn't be an consequence (using same quality/length cables).
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Not sure why you really demand a 2d Cyberspace into the same dwelling house. Usually this is for backup/redundancy if you are doing business/stock management at home. Some newer routers let you to combine both lines to boost the speed.
I'm non sure why you remember paying $30/m for a capped 6D/2U is a good plan and decided to pay for a faster 2nd plan. That's a total of $sixty+ for the Net. You can get i good decent speedy service with unlimited access nowadays. I recommend CarryTel.
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- ds2chan
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Avatar wrote: ↑ Not sure why you really need a 2nd Internet into the same home. Commonly this is for backup/redundancy if you lot are doing business/stock management at home. Some newer routers allow you to combine both lines to boost the speed.
I'm not certain why you think paying $30/m for a capped 6D/2U is a good plan and decided to pay for a faster 2nd plan. That's a full of $60+ for the Net. You lot tin go one good decent speedy service with unlimited access present. I recommend CarryTel.
In one case his child moves out then OP would be stuck with a large Internet bill. I just checked and $30 is cheap since the OP said he doesn't need super fast Internet.
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RETD wrote: ↑ Is information technology technically possible without intervention from Cogeco other than "permission" and admin logging for payment for utilize of their infrastructure? Start mentioned that there is a cap to the number of connections allowed merely, as y'all mention, that could be related to Starting time's understanding with Cogeco bold such exists. I've read online that ppl movement their modem between houses (aforementioned territory) and it works.
I would split the cable where it enters the firm. Both cable modems would be within 2ft cable distance to the splitter so signal imbalance shouldn't be an issue (using same quality/length cables).
Teksavvy still offers your plan for $30, at least very close to your plan - five/1 200gb month, $35 for unlimited
If yous don't mind switching bank check them out, bump yourself up to maybe the xxx/5 unlimited plan for as long as you demand then downgrade
There is nothing wrong with what you want to practice, I take the option available at my house, when I practice look ups at Rogers they show a Basement pick as I hire it out and previous tenants had separate internet but all of one line into the house and carve up within the outdoor box, it's all a matter of visitor policy and if the line point is strong enough to support two services, I'm sure that's what the tech would be checking.. otherwise in that location is technically nothing stopping multiple cable modems to exist hooked up in ane home
At one betoken I ran a modem from an iisp and another from Fido at the same time, I signed upwards with Fido first then made sure information technology was working earlier canceling the other and so had a couple weeks of overlap
If you really want to do the 2 services thing, try getting your kid to sign up with Cogeco and see what happens
Hither's what my Rogers address lookup returns:
arg.. stupid rfd images, so many edits!
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- Gee
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ds2chan wrote: ↑ It makes sense to me because yous only have the single cable wire/line coming to your firm. How would any company split that and share with each other? Merely lets wait for other knowledgeable people to come in and explicate and share their thoughts.
It doesn't make sense
The cablevision line is endemic by Cogeco. The line simply provides bandwidth. It is up to Cogeco to make up one's mind what to transport downwards. If Cogeco has Third Political party Internet, like Teksavvy, they tin lease the line and Cogeco decides how much capacity they give them.
When you go service, the cable line is simply the highway. You tin can decide how many cars go along that highway as long as at that place are plenty lanes. You can also decide on the speed limits.
Hither is a state of affairs. What if you live in a house with a basement flat. The tenant wants their own net. You think Cogeco volition pull a 2nd line? It is the same line, they simply provision ii modems, as long every bit you take enough capacity on the lines, y'all are good to go
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Gee wrote: ↑ It doesn't brand sense
The cablevision line is owned by Cogeco. The line only provides bandwidth. Information technology is up to Cogeco to make up one's mind what to send down. If Cogeco has Third Political party Net, like Teksavvy, they tin lease the line and Cogeco decides how much capacity they give them.
When you get service, the cable line is but the highway. You can decide how many cars go along that highway as long as there are enough lanes. You can also decide on the speed limits.
Hither is a situation. What if you live in a house with a basement apartment. The tenant wants their own net. You think Cogeco will pull a second line? It is the same line, they just provision two modems, equally long as you have enough chapters on the lines, y'all are expert to go
To expand on this, all houses tap into the same coax distribution line. In that location'southward one single line running behind all of the houses on your street, and the drop into your business firm is tapped off that line.
The technology for cablevision internet is fourth dimension slotted. The equipment at Cogeco'due south facility sequentially slots in information for all houses (or modems) tapped onto that line. Every house sees everything, but there are addressing schemes and synchronization involved to ensure that each device only sees and processes slots associated with their service.
The provider can allocate more than download/upload speed to a given modem by allocating (and synchronizing) more time slots for a specific device, and so that a higher tier customer has a larger share of the pot.
That's over simplified, of class.
Adding a splitter at your house and connecting two cable modems to information technology isn't much different from dropping another coax from the distribution line, technically speaking. The big divergence is in indicate levels. A splitter used in your home cuts the signal on the coax in one-half, then you may run the risk of non having enough signal for the two modems fastened to it. A 2nd drop would be better, but Cogeco isn't likely going to do that for you. But, really, a splitter with 2 cablevision modems downstream shouldn't exist much different, in terms of signal forcefulness, than connecting the modem to one side of a splitter like y'all would in a cable TV + cablevision modem setup.
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@Dynatos
You stated it more eloquently.
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Showtime is correct. Rogers allows multiple cable modems per residential address in their residential areas, it is merely an event with their billing system which they work around past substituting the address/location details. Third party providers are too able to provision another cable modem also in the piece of work guild system.
Since Shaw immune other ISPs to utilize their cable lines, I have only heard countless times that they will not permit more than one cable modem per address and will deny any installation request if they see a duplicate name and/or address. No exceptions. They may not permit it for their own customers either to this twenty-four hour period since it is also a limitation in their billing organisation and their terms of use policy.
Aside from that, if you can find a fashion to provision a cable modem with Shaw or a tertiary party provider, in that location is no technical limitation. The cable lines and a good quality splitter should allow yous to carry both signals.
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Agreed. Information technology comes down to company policy.
Technically, adding a 2nd modem to your house is functionally no different than installing one at your neighbour'southward.
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Eldorado wrote: ↑ Teksavvy all the same offers your plan for $30, at least very close to your programme - 5/1 200gb month, $35 for unlimited
If you don't mind switching check them out, bump yourself upward to maybe the 30/five unlimited plan for every bit long as you need then downgrade
Proficient suggestion but unfortunately in my expanse Teksavvy doesn't offer the plans yous mention. Cheapest cable plan is 15D/2U/unlimited for $40. Seems like their offerings change frequently so I'll bank check back occasionally.
I really like Start. I'd charge per unit them 10/10 for quality/reliability & support. I've been with them for viii years and they've held my toll constant whereas Cogeco seemingly increased 2x per year.
Still pondering options but thanks to all for your comments.
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